Hi
I have been using the save our sleep technique for my 4 week old since she was 2 weeks however when I put her down to go to bed at night it is taking about 2 hours to get her to sleep using the technique in the book. She is fine during the day.

Has anybody had a similar issue?
Thanks

I'm sorry but for a 4wk old I think that book is majorly inappropriate and you should tuck it away for a few months. She is 4wks old! Get her to sleep by any means necesscary, cuddle her, rock her, feed her to sleep. She had just come out of the womb into the scary big world and you are trying to 'train' her to sleep. Once she gets older it is much more reasonable to try sleep techniques, I did so myself with DS when he was 8mths. But newborns should be made to feel secure and go to sleep whenever they feel like it, plus how they feel like it, not when a book tells them to. Good luck, i'm sure you are trying to do what is best for your beautiful baby smile

I agree, a 4 weeks old just needs it's mum! I wouldnt let my 4 weeks old cry to sleep I would always feed her to sleep and give her lots of cuddles and make her feel safe.

Don't try and get her into a routine or get her to go to sleep on her own spend as much time as you can with her holding her etc. There is lots of time for sleep technigues later smile

Believe me they dont like cuddles when they get older lol smile

I think you just need to be realistic that you are not going to get a great sleep when you have a newborn! We also did whatever was necessary like feeding, rocking etc. I contemplated sleep training a number of times but we ended up not going down that path and he naturally started sleeping through at 14 months. That sounds like ages but I just wanted to do things when he was ready like giving up night feeding etc so we didn't have to 'cry it out'. Good luck with your bubs and I would also put that book away, she is so young and just needs milk and love at the moment smile

Can you please tell us a bit more info about the technique and what you are doing and what bubs is doing.

There is alot of judgement on the book as you will probably realise, but if your swaddling bubs and putting to sleep awake and shes not drifting off, i'd like to know what bubs is doing before i make a suggestion.

I'd definitely recommend you stop using that book. I personally wouldn't use it at all but especially on a baby so young. Newborns need cuddles I can't understand how you could let them cry or follow such a strict routine. Just go with the flow.

Tizzie only says to ignore the protest cry, all other crys should be attended to, the moment your bubs starts emotionally crying she says to comfort your baby. She also says once you have entered the room after your child crys to stay there until they are asleep.

I do agree the routines are very strict but if you use them as a guide and take a relaxed approach to them, there are some good tips to help.

Also after having a bubs in NICU, most of Tizzies routines are similiar to the routines the midwives in the NICU use.

Hi
I have been using the save our sleep technique for my 4 week old since she was 2 weeks however when I put her down to go to bed at night it is taking about 2 hours to get her to sleep using the technique in the book. She is fine during the day.

Has anybody had a similar issue?
Thanks

Sorry but are you Trolling on here or what? surely you are not serious! throw the book out its not for new borns, pick your baby up and feed and cuddle it. Its probably starving and wants a feed

Can you please tell us a bit more info about the technique and what you are doing and what bubs is doing.

There is alot of judgement on the book as you will probably realise, but if your swaddling bubs and putting to sleep awake and shes not drifting off, i'd like to know what bubs is doing before i make a suggestion.

During the day I am swaddling and putting her straight into her bassineand she goes to sleep mostly without a fuss (maybe a few cries then she is off). I do exactly the same at 6:00 (have moved the routine up an hour to suit our other childs bedtime) and she just won't self-settle like she does during the day. It baffles me. We are trying to do the first self-settling option to let her cry but because she just wasn't settling now I am going in and settling her with patting and then leaving the room again. And when she does end up going to sleep on her own she is awake every 15 mins or so grizzling so doesn't go to sleep until we end up going to bed and if feed her again.

Thanks for not being judgemental. My first daughter took 11 months to sleep thorugh the night and that was after we went to a sleep clinic and I am going to get the problem sorted early this time.

Hope you can help.

Tizzie only says to ignore the protest cry, all other crys should be attended to, the moment your bubs starts emotionally crying she says to comfort your baby. She also says once you have entered the room after your child crys to stay there until they are asleep.

I do agree the routines are very strict but if you use them as a guide and take a relaxed approach to them, there are some good tips to help.

Also after having a bubs in NICU, most of Tizzies routines are similiar to the routines the midwives in the NICU use.

At least there is another person who is portraying me to be a cruel mother who doesn't want to hold her child.

Is she within hearing distance to you putting your other child to sleep? or is there another noise at 6pm that could be distracting her. I know at my DD gets distracted by the school kids on their way home from school so that ruins my afternoon sleep and everyone in my neighbour hood decides to mow lawns at 6pm. However my DD was always subject to noise early on, we didnt make things quiet but its the sounds she not use to that keeps her up or wakes her up.

The other thing is the temperature change between the day and night, is there a chance she could be feeling a bit warmer/cooler than usual?

I say stick at it, my DD was in a routine from being in hospital for 4 wks and had to self settle that whole time, i bought her home and stuck to what we did in the hospital, once everyone else started interfering and rocky, patting you name it, i had a nightmare on my hands. I bought Tizzies book when she was 8mths, saw where i went wrong, instead of having a baby i couldnt get to sleep by 10pm - Midnight, i now have a happy bubs going to bed at 7pm and falling to sleep in 20mins and staying asleep. Now if anyone rocks her, they get told off, I have bubs no2 on the way, and i want a good sleeper.

Plus i am the worse sleeper ever, since i can remember from a kid i never slept at night. I dont wont this for my daughter so any advice from books or forums is all taken on board.

The books not a bad thing, Tizzie is very opinionated which a lot of people dont like, but its up to the mother to read the queues from her baby and comfort her baby in the way she feels appropriate.

Good luck with trying to get bubs to sleep, pm me if you want to talk or run any ideas past me.

good on your for asking for support on here
we woke our baby and tried to keep her awake as per the book
the book is a guide only. all babies are different.
she probably is not settling because she has wind
have you tried infants friend they dont call witching hours for nothing. its the build up over the day that makes the baby unsettled.
we rocked walked cuddled did what ever to stop dd from crying.
she self settles in the day easy as a couple of minutes she is asleep..no rocking..ect ect... but night we have to hold her burp her and this goes on for about half hour every night..screames the house down..
this is normal for young babies.
our dd sleeps through the night from three and half months breast feed and takes a bottle.
honestly if you baby wont stay awake then put her to sleep...dont try stretch her out to suit your other childs bed time try put her asleep earlier actually you could try not follow book for a couple of days you may find she is happier
we are on the contented baby book works well for us but we still let dd sleep as long as she wants most days ....... but start the day at seven. am.... anyway good luck I have that book here its good but honestly every day is different so ya cant follow a full on schdule.
also if your breast feeding it could be somethingyour eating. good luck and just try to relax and go with the flow your baby will tell you what he or she needs.