Breastfeeding and nut allergy article

hmm = your damned if you do & your ddamned if you dont....

I'm gunna throw my 3c in.. LOL - as usual.

here's my story - it's not about nuts, but same same...

When i was preg with DS, milk, dairy & soy products made me violently ill.. projectile vomiting style sickness... he was born with a lactose intollerance.. which he has mostly grown out of now, but still feels a litlle blurgh if he has too much dairy in a day.

When i was preg with DD, i craved milk like a crazy woman & if i couldnt get any, well, the sky may as well have fallen... the total opposite of what it was with the other pregnancy... when DD was born, she has a true allergy to milk proteins & even now at 5, she still has bad issues with it...

We were advised that while the scientific arena has NFI about what casues these things, they do know that they can be heriditary. I am not a germaphobe - so that's not the case in my family. I do have a lactose intollerance myself - but i am the ONLY one in my family & i have 3 sisters & 6 half brothers....

so, go figure.

Here is an interesting thought - if you have gestational diabetes one of the suggested snacks is nuts in particular almonds, and peanut butter is ok just a bit high in fat. Wonder if there is a correlation between Nut allergies and mums with GD? or Nut allergies, mums with GD and breastfeeding?

Many unrelated things are correlated, due to confounding factors. This is why the term "correlation does not equal causation" is thrown about so much!

OC1246 wrote:
okay....having now read the article. I have a couple of issues with it.

1. peanuts are a legume. not a nut.
2. secondly he has said woman are "probably" eating more nuts in pregnancy. not they are, but probably. How on earth can you base an answer on that.
3. there are less and less woman solely bf until 6 months now. 20 years ago they were much more likely to. So, how can nut allergies be increasing due to woman feeding solely for 6 months, whereas 20 years ago it was much more likely that more women would be feeding solely until 6 months and they were eating
unrestricted nuts as there wasn't a problem. What has happened in the last 20 years that is different? We have always bf, most people don't give a rats about what the research says when to introduce solids and as evidence shows it has been introduced at all ages in different cultures, so what is it thats different? Also what is the comparison between Australia and a country that eats a lot of nuts or peanuts such as where they originated from?
Just did a quick google of peanuts. They are susceptible (as are many other grains) to a fungus. This then produces a substance called aflatoxin. This is a carcinogenic and it also suppresses the immune system. It can contaminate the product before harvest or while in storage. The FDA has set limits as to how much can be in the food. It effects grain, peanuts and the things that eat these......guess what they are? Cows, (so its in the milk) chickens (so its in the eggs), meat. Can you see where I am going.....lol
Is it inconceivable to suggest that perhaps somewhere down the line either this fungus or maybe something they are using to treat it or maybe something totally different but equally as damaging may actually be impacting us much more then we think? Sure small amounts may be fine. But what about when we eat different products that all have a tiny trace of it over and over again? Over time could humans not evolve to react to the substance that is actually damaging their immune system for their own protection. Thats what
we do for everything else. Maybe we are reacting to our own food chain.

sometimes I wish I was a scientist so I could test my own hypothesis.....lol

You should be a scientist OC!!!!

tickled*pink wrote:
Nai&Beau wrote:
I do have weather phobia I admit that!

I used to, too laugh Then not long ago i couldnt handle the "outbide, outbide, outbide" being yelled at me by dd2 and i just whacked them in gumboots and raincoats and nearly threw them out the back. I watched them through the window lmao Best bit was getting them inside for milos in front of the heater, i have to say. Very cute stuff.

Aw that's cute! I don't mind walking in rain but I just generally hate the cold so I don't go outdoors in winter when I don't have to.

Chiliwoman wrote:
hmm = your damned if you do & your ddamned if you dont....

I'm gunna throw my 3c in.. LOL - as usual.

here's my story - it's not about nuts, but same same...


When i was preg with DS, milk, dairy & soy products made me violently ill.. projectile vomiting style
... he was born with a lactose intollerance.. which he has mostly grown out of now, but still feels a litlle blurgh if he has too much dairy in a day.

When i was preg with DD, i craved milk like a crazy woman & if i couldnt get any, well, the sky may as well have fallen... the total opposite of what it was with the other pregnancy... when DD was born, she has a true allergy to milk proteins & even now at 5, she still has bad issues with it...

We were advised that while the scientific arena has NFI about what casues these things, they do know that they can be heriditary. I am not a germaphobe - so that's not the case in my family. I do have a lactose
myself - but i am the ONLY one in my family & i have 3 sisters & 6 half brothers....

so, go figure.

Its weird hey.. I'm the only one in my family who has coeliac disease yet that's meant to be hereditry too. I really would be interested in researching more on this topic.

Nai&Beau wrote:
Chiliwoman wrote:
hmm = your damned if you do & your ddamned if you dont....

I'm gunna throw my 3c in.. LOL - as usual.

here's my story - it's not about nuts, but same same...


When i was preg with DS, milk, dairy & soy products made me violently ill.. projectile vomiting style
... he was born with a lactose intollerance.. which he has mostly grown out of now, but still feels a litlle blurgh if he has too much dairy in a day.

When i was preg with DD, i craved milk like a crazy woman & if i couldnt get any, well, the sky may as well have fallen... the total opposite of what it was with the other pregnancy... when DD was born, she has a true allergy to milk proteins & even now at 5, she still has bad issues with it...

We were advised that while the scientific arena has NFI about what casues these things, they do know that they can be heriditary. I am not a germaphobe - so that's not the case in my family. I do have a lactose
myself - but i am the ONLY one in my family & i have 3 sisters & 6 half brothers....

so, go figure.
Its weird hey.. I'm the only one in my family who has coeliac disease yet that's meant to be hereditry too. I really would be interested in researching more on this topic.

I thought a lot of people were coeliac but didn't know it? Maybe that could be the case with your family?

Quotes being crap but yeah that's right OC 1 in 100 people in AUS have it and don't know. My immediate family all got tested after I got diagnosed and none of them have it. It could come from somewhere else in my family and that person just doesn't know they have it. Always a possibility. But at the moment I am not aware of any family member who has it.

Nai&Beau wrote:
Its weird hey.. I'm the only one in my family who has coeliac disease yet that's meant to be hereditry too. I really would be interested in researching more on this topic.

Yeah - given up trying to understand it - does my head in - i have read a kazillion reports & theories & it just seems to go round in circles.

We drew the short straw smile

I'm just wondering how they come up with the figure of 1 in 100 people having it and not knowing - just curious. If they don't know, surely they aren't documented as having it...Is that based on some other kind of statistic?

kerriej wrote:
I'm just wondering how they come up with the figure of 1 in 100 people having it and not knowing - just curious. If they don't know, surely they aren't documented as having it...Is that based on some other kind of statistic?

No idea. I'm sure it's a researched fact but ya never know maybe it's not right.