this is so true. All mothers should read this.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/lifeandstyle/2012/mar...


and there are lots of people i could say this too in my life.

I think its a good article, but I don't agree. Its once again mothers shouldn't complain about anything, because some people can't have kids. I feel awful and I feel sad for the woman in the article, but honestly......is she really surprised that at 46 she probably won't have kids? Should mothers not complain about finding it hard because someone chose not to reassess their life before menopause is likely to start.....

I know I must sound harsh, but honestly I am over the lack of self responsibility in this society. Don't talk about bf being good, it makes ff feel bad. Don't talk about the bad points of motherhood because people who don't have kids feel bad. Don't talk about how you want to lose 3 kilos because the person who wants to lose 20 kilos might be offended. I mean seriously....why don't we just listen to each other. Acknowledge everyones own individual dramas and stop blaming everyone else for how you personally feel.
I mean the women in the article did have what...30 years to work out the kid situation. Sure she didn't meet the right bloke, but she knew that at 25, 30 and 35. So I am quite happy to acknowledge the wonderful parts of motherhood and equally the bad parts. It is not my fault if someone has a different road in life.

Wow that was a pretty powerful piece of writing sad

OC1246 wrote:
I think its a good article, but I don't agree. Its once again mothers shouldn't complain about anything, because some people can't have kids. I feel awful and I feel sad for the woman in the article, but honestly......is she really surprised that at 46 she probably won't have kids? Should mothers not complain about finding it hard because someone chose not to reassess their life before menopause is likely to start.....

I know I must sound harsh, but honestly I am over the lack of self responsibility in this society. Don't talk about bf being good, it makes ff feel bad. Don't talk about the bad points of motherhood because people who don't have kids feel bad. Don't talk about how you want to lose 3 kilos because the person who wants to lose 20 kilos might be offended. I mean seriously....why don't we just listen to each other. Acknowledge everyones own individual dramas and stop blaming everyone else for how you personally feel.
I mean the women in the article did have what...30 years to work out the kid situation. Sure she didn't meet the right bloke, but she knew that at 25, 30 and 35. So I am quite happy to acknowledge the wonderful parts of motherhood and equally the bad parts. It is not my fault if someone has a different road in life.

+1000

Couldn't have said it better OC smile
I personally face early menopause, likely before age 26!! Sooo I thought - well I'm happy single and being a mum so took the ball by the horns n went for number 3, and I intend on going for number 4 too. Life doesn't wait around grin

yeh it is..Even being more than ten years younger than her when she wrote the article and having tried for 5 years i can see the point she makes in how governments dont say much about helping childless couples. You get working for families here .. but to get that you have to have a child and she makes a good point when she says that those with out kids do have bills etc too. its not only those with kids who have to take things on. Usually if you dont have kids you do get forgotten alot more and it never occurs to people that that is the case. Usually we are the last to be looked at to get anything if we even do but we are expected to contribut to tax initiatives helping those with children.

I didn't like that. Said she doesn't want to "mum bash" but IMO that's exactly what she did. She thinks mums should stop complaining about it being tough but she just publicly complained her hypocritical little butt off about not being able to have a child at 46.
Seriously rediculous. She said she didn't even think about it properly at all until 40 and then at 46 had fertility tests & found out she practically had no chance. Well duh! Not many 46 year old women are perfectly fertile!
Being a mum IS hard work and IS stressful at times and mums should be able to have a little whinge sometimes even though we are so lucky to have our little ones and do cherish and love them with all our hearts.
In saying that, I do think the email she received about someone being devastated about having a boy is just awful & I think that mum should wake up to herself.
I don't agree with her about Victoria beckham. She said being a working mum is hard. Well it is! Doesn't mean she loves her kids any less. And she was happy about having a girl. What's wrong with that? Doesn't mean she would have loved her baby less if it was a boy.
I feel for her that she will never be a mother but like I will never understand what it's like to be in her shoes she will never know what it's like to be in mine or any other mums so who is she to say we have such perfect lives and nothing to complain about?

Thank you oc! Once again perfectly articulated my thoughts!

After reading that I want to throw my cup of tea at the wall and put my fist threw the stain.

V_1990 wrote:
OC1246 wrote:
I think its a good article, but I don't agree. Its once again mothers shouldn't complain about anything, because some people can't have kids. I feel awful and I feel sad for the woman in the article, but honestly......is she really surprised that at 46 she probably won't have kids? Should mothers not complain about finding it hard because someone chose not to reassess their life before menopause is likely to start.....

I know I must sound harsh, but honestly I am over the lack of self responsibility in this society. Don't talk about bf being good, it makes ff feel bad. Don't talk about the bad points of motherhood because people who don't have kids feel bad. Don't talk about how you want to lose 3 kilos because the person who wants to lose 20 kilos might be offended. I mean seriously....why don't we just listen to each other. Acknowledge everyones own individual dramas and stop blaming everyone else for how you personally feel.
I mean the women in the article did have what...30 years to work out the kid situation. Sure she didn't meet the right bloke, but she knew that at 25, 30 and 35. So I am quite happy to acknowledge the wonderful parts of motherhood and equally the bad parts. It is not my fault if someone has a different road in life.

+1000

Couldn't have said it better OC smile
I personally face early menopause, likely before age 26!! Sooo I thought - well I'm happy single and being a mum so took the ball by the horns n went for number 3, and I intend on going for number 4 too. Life doesn't wait around grin

good on you! geez i can imagine that must have been pretty stressful for you though. i also get how awful it would be for those who are infertile. but everyone has their own pain. we can't shush everyone else because we are hurting. it wont go away even if you ban everyone from talking about it. pain is so hard....but life is pain.

StrawberryTimTam wrote:
I didn't like that. Said she doesn't want to "mum bash" but IMO that's exactly what she did. She thinks mums should stop complaining about it being tough but she just publicly complained her hypocritical little butt off about not being able to have a child at 46.
Seriously rediculous. She said she didn't even think about it properly at all until 40 and then at 46 had fertility tests & found out she practically had no chance. Well duh! Not many 46 year old women are perfectly fertile!
Being a mum IS hard work and IS stressful at times and mums should be able to have a little whinge sometimes even though we are so lucky to have our little ones and do cherish and love them with all our hearts.
In saying that, I do think the email she received about someone being devastated about having a boy is just awful & I think that mum should wake up to herself.
I don't agree with her about Victoria beckham. She said being a working mum is hard. Well it is! Doesn't mean she loves her kids any less. And she was happy about having a girl. What's wrong with that? Doesn't mean she would have loved her baby less if it was a boy.
I feel for her that she will never be a mother but like I will never understand what it's like to be in her shoes she will never know what it's like to be in mine or any other mums so who is she to say we have such perfect lives and nothing to complain about?

+1.

hmm. i think it is a great piece of writing & i completely understand the points that she is making - but - it comes across as a bitter woman complaining about her lot in life. Mums shouldnt celebrate thier lot in life? Bad comes with the good in everything in life - she should do something positive for the children in the world that dont have a family, or are mistreated or neglected instead of complaining about how hard done by she is.

OC1246 wrote:
V_1990 wrote:
OC1246 wrote:
I think its a good article, but I don't agree. Its once again mothers shouldn't complain about anything, because some people can't have kids. I feel awful and I feel sad for the woman in the article, but honestly......is she really surprised that at 46 she probably won't have kids? Should mothers not complain about finding it hard because someone chose not to reassess their life before menopause is likely to start.....

I know I must sound harsh, but honestly I am over the lack of self responsibility in this society. Don't talk about bf being good, it makes ff feel bad. Don't talk about the bad points of motherhood because people who don't have kids feel bad. Don't talk about how you want to lose 3 kilos because the person who wants to lose 20 kilos might be offended. I mean seriously....why don't we just listen to each other. Acknowledge everyones own individual dramas and stop blaming everyone else for how you personally feel.
I mean the women in the article did have what...30 years to work out the kid situation. Sure she didn't meet the right bloke, but she knew that at 25, 30 and 35. So I am quite happy to acknowledge the wonderful parts of motherhood and equally the bad parts. It is not my fault if someone has a different road in life.

+1000

Couldn't have said it better OC smile
I personally face early menopause, likely before age 26!! Sooo I thought - well I'm happy single and being a mum so took the ball by the horns n went for number 3, and I intend on going for number 4 too. Life doesn't wait around grin good on you! geez i can imagine that must have been pretty stressful for you though. i also get how awful it would be for those who are infertile. but everyone has their own pain. we can't shush everyone else because we are hurting. it wont go away even if you ban everyone from talking about it. pain is so hard....but life is pain.

Soooo true. Life isn't easy. We all make sacrifices and go through pain etc. it makes us who we are smile

Yeah it was stressful n still is if I think about it but if I just waste years thinking about it n stressing I'll never finish my family. Which is what I want. It's scary but my kids make every bit of it more than worth it hehe smile

StrawberryTimTam wrote:
I didn't like that. Said she doesn't want to "mum bash" but IMO that's exactly what she did. She thinks mums should stop complaining about it being tough but she just publicly complained her hypocritical little butt off about not being able to have a child at 46.
Seriously rediculous. She said she didn't even think about it properly at all until 40 and then at 46 had fertility tests & found out she practically had no chance. Well duh! Not many 46 year old women are perfectly fertile!
Being a mum IS hard work and IS stressful at times and mums should be able to have a little whinge sometimes even though we are so lucky to have our little ones and do cherish and love them with all our hearts.
In saying that, I do think the email she received about someone being devastated about having a boy is just awful & I think that mum should wake up to herself.
I don't agree with her about Victoria beckham. She said being a working mum is hard. Well it is! Doesn't mean she loves her kids any less. And she was happy about having a girl. What's wrong with that? Doesn't mean she would have loved her baby less if it was a boy.
I feel for her that she will never be a mother but like I will never understand what it's like to be in her shoes she will never know what it's like to be in mine or any other mums so who is she to say we have such perfect lives and nothing to complain about?

+1