andrew was born 18th may and he was 8p 2o , 54cm long and h/c 34cm... 1hr and half hours labour and ryan was 8th april 8p 1o , 57cm long and h/c 34cm.. and 2hr labour. same back pain and both big boys. hopefully we have a girl one day and shorter birth.. hopefully we have him/her before andrew is 2yr old.i just hope my 4yr stops being jealous of andrew...