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So I have tried no dairy now for just over 2 weeks but my dd is still doing the same thing every night. She is great during the day but I have noticed she never really farts during the day.
Then come night time she wakes up for a feed around 11.30, then afterwards screams with wind pain. The last two nights it's taken me 3 hours to settle her and I've had to have her sleep the rest of the night in the bouncer as curled up is the only way she'll sleep.
I can tell it's wind because when I put her flat on her back she cries and arches. Then when I push her needs to chest she always does a few big farts but never seems to be able to get it all out. First thing in the morning.. at around 6-7am when she has her first bf she does a huge explosive poo, this happens every single morning. THen she is OK for the rest of the day.
This has been happening like clockwork for around 4 weeks now.
What else could it be?? She's almost 5 months old, I thought they should be getting better with wind by now? She has always been a colicky baby but this has been so consistent every night.

Also I did have one visit with the chiro who checked her out. She had one bit of tightness in her back which is did an adjustment on. He said it may need a few more times.. not sure if this will help though. He said this was likely to be the reason she preferred feeding on one side.

Thanks

I would keep up with the dairy free for a little longer. When I put DD on a dairy free diet it took a week to notice some changes, but it was a month before I noticed the problem was mostly gone. As hard as it is try to stick to it for 2months, before deciding if it did or didn't work. And keep up with the Chiro too, sometimes it does take more than one visit!



I had similar issues with my DS and the chiro we used to go to suggested that I give him some inner health plus.. You can use it for little ones (pharmacist will tell you dosages etc). It comes in powder form and dairy free for little ones. It really worked wonders for us.

My signatures wont work.. wahhhh!

Stupid question. I haven't read your previous posts. Have you tried wind drops etc. My ds & dd both had severe colac for about 4-5 months and severe reflux for 9months. I was pulling my hair out.

In your case the fact that bub is fine most of the day but bad at night is unusual. Have you been to a gp. Maybe think about a paeditrician or someone specialised in this area. Just a thought if it keeps happening.




Ok I'll try answer everyones questions.
She has a good feed before bed and and I always try and burp her. Through the day I only feed her one breast per feed and just before bed she will usually have one side, bath and then the otherside and bed. There is nothing specific for dinner I can pinpoint as I have a pretty varied diet so we hardly ever eat the same thing more than once a week for dinner.
She has started solids. The wind pains don't coincide with the start of solids so I can't say it's that. She's pretty good with apple, pear, pumpkin, sweet potato at the moment. Really enjoys her foods and I only give it to her once a day at lunch time.
We have tried infacol and infants friend. Currently trying Colic Calm as I've read good things about it. Only on day 2 of Colic Calm and it says it might take a while to work.
My Chiro is great, he actually lectures at uni and has written a few books so I fully trust him with her and will go back.
To 'the pumpkin and I" thanks for the advice I'll try the dairy for longer.
I might see my GP and see if I can get a referral to the paed I saw when DD was a few weeks old. He was great and hope he has some more ideas...?? I'm scratching my head at the moment as this is not getting any better and I want more sleep!

I don't think it's brauer? Its the one from the US just called Colic Calm. It's a homeopathic remedy.
Just remember my hubby's Aunty is back from overseas and she's a naturopath. So called her. She doesn't believe it dairy at all. She's making me up some specific drops to try and asked me lots of questions of whether she's arching back or leaning forward etc. So I'll go and pick them up tomorrow and see how we go! Apparently these are quite potent (but safe) so only a couple of drops required... please please please work! Mummy needs some sleep.

It might be helpful if you kept a food diary for a week or two? If its only happening at that same time during the night, perhaps it's something you're eating at lunchtime? Anyway, sometimes it's helps to see it all layed out when you're trying to eliminate possible causes.
Could you go and see a different (I think I remember you saying you had seen one in a previous post) Lactation consultant?
I know everyone is different, but for us I was feeding off one side up until about 3 months old until the second LC we saw recommended I try feeding both sides at one feed, this along with lip & tongue tied snipped made an amazing difference, but probably mainly due to snip smile Up until this point DS would squirm and moan in pain from his night feed.







Sometimes I get her to sleep on her tummy and roll her over later. She tends to go face first into the matress otherwise which scares me. If shes really unsettled tummy sleeping doesn't work either.
Her tongue seems fine and its only this one time a day not every feed. I would assume you'd have trouble with all feeds?

She did it again last night. Big poo this morning again! Its like she just starts feeling uncomfortable from the poo in the middle of the night. Hope this pattern changes soon!

Hi Steph! You're little girl sounds a lot like my 5 month old DS. He'd spend hours before a poo wriggling, fussing, crying, until he did a poo. It was always explosive, mucousy, & green. It happened a lot at night which also meant bad night sleeps for me. Afterwards he was so much better!! Also his weight gain has been terrible!! 240g gain in a month when he's already under the 5th percentile isn't ideal (born 4kg). GP thought it was a tummy bug but tests came back good, LC told us it was foremilk/hindmilk imbalance & no chance it could be lactose intolerance, went to a second GP who tested for lactose intolerance & it came back positive. I cut out dairy (as much as I can lol) 3 weeks ago, & his poo is still not "normal" but it's getting there. It can take over a month at this age for the gut to repair to be able to tolerate lactose again. PM me if you'd like smile
steph19 wrote:
Sometimes I get her to sleep on her tummy and roll her over later. She tends to go face first into the matress otherwise which scares me. If shes really unsettled tummy sleeping doesn't work either.
Her tongue seems fine and its only this one time a day not every feed. I would assume you'd have trouble with all feeds?

She did it again last night. Big poo this morning again! Its like she just starts feeling uncomfortable from the poo in the middle of the night. Hope this pattern changes soon!


DS fed fine for all feeds, but it just seemed as though it (the wind) would build up and give him loads of pain in the night. Can you check her lip if you haven't already? here's a link of a site that has images of what it looks like (sorry I really can't remember if I have posted this before, apologies if I have and seeming like I am banging on about it again! smile) Usually if they have lip tie tongue tie is there too.
http://www.pennilessparenting.com/2012/02/tongu...







white_with_three wrote:
Hi Steph! You're little girl sounds a lot like my 5 month old DS. He'd spend hours before a poo wriggling, fussing, crying, until he did a poo. It was always explosive, mucousy, & green. It happened a lot at night which also meant bad night sleeps for me. Afterwards he was so much better!! Also his weight gain has been terrible!! 240g gain in a month when he's already under the 5th percentile isn't ideal (born 4kg). GP thought it was a tummy bug but tests came back good, LC told us it was foremilk/hindmilk imbalance & no chance it could be lactose intolerance, went to a second GP who tested for lactose intolerance & it came back positive. I cut out dairy (as much as I can lol) 3 weeks ago, & his poo is still not "normal" but it's getting there. It can take over a month at this age for the gut to repair to be able to tolerate lactose again. PM me if you'd like smile

My dd had a foremilk/hindmilk imbalance earlier on, however I now generally block feed or feed on one side only. She doesn't have green poos anymore and her weight gain is fantastic. I also have asked the dr about lactose intolerance and she didn't have it.

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