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Tongue Tie Lock Rss

Hi i just wanted to convey some information about Tongue Tie.

My little girl was born with a tongue tie (skin under tongue started from the tip of the tongue - restricting movement bascially she could not poke her tounge past her gum) The Paediatrician who saw her in hospital told us that it would not make any difference to her feeding or talking and not to let anyone tell me different. He did say that it was however our choice to have the skin under the tonge cut. I had never heard of tongue tie before so we didn't think any more of it.

After 11 days I stopped breast feeding but due to problems i had breastfeeding my first child I didn't think much of it. For the next three weeks she started each bottle feed screaming and getting all worked up as she tried to latch on to the teat properly. Some feeds were however successful as i learnt which way to hold the bottle for her latch onto. I still didn't really know if it was the fault of tongue tie or she just didn't latch on properly.

At our six week check up i spoke again to the Paediatrician and told him that we wanted to have the tie cut. He wasn't very happy but referred us to a surgeon. After a three week wait to see the surgeon, he believed it should be done asap, and two days later with a trip to the Day Surgery a 30 second procedure which required no drugs (gas, ga) was carried out and Ella has not looked back. She was 10 weeks and 2 days old when they did it and she now feeds without any fuss and has fun exploring her mouth with her new tongue.

I did a bit of reading during the three weeks i waited to see the surgeon and found out that there is quite a division between the sides of to cut or not to cut. I just wanted to let anyone out there who may have a similiar experience know that for us it was such an easy procedure and it didn't upset her at all. Ella fed 5 minutes after the cut and i noticed an imeadiate difference.

Mum of Sophie - June 01, Ella - June 04

My son was also born with a tongue tie. I found it extremely painful to breastfeed because of it. None of the midwives told me that it could affect breastfeeding, it wasn't until the lactation consultant came and saw me just before being discharged and saw how abraised my nipples were that I realised what the problem was. I tired nipple shields but they hurt even more. More poor son was ingesting more blood from my nipples than milk, it seemed. I expressed for 4 weeks when my supply seemed to diminish, then put him on formula which I was very disappointed about. The ECHC nurse wanted me to have the tie cut when he was a week old, but the paediatrician had said not to do anything until 6 months. I will be getting it cut then so his speech won't be affected as well. It would be nice, wouldn't it, if the doctors and nurses could recognise how distressing this condition can make breastfeeding, both for mother and baby - instead of pushing breastfeeding no matter what.
my daughter also was tounge tied and the hospital midwives said that it would not make a difference yet my independant midwive and the lactation consultant disaggred.she wasn't gaining weight which was a concern as she was only 4lb 8oz at birth and my nipples were constantly sore but only underneath.although i only had a 1 week wait to have her tounge released. she was 4weeks old when she had it done. but seeings though for the previous 4 weeks she was not getting enough milk, my milk supply became non-existent so after all that i had to make the decision to bottle feed. but since then she has been gaining plently of weight and after 7 weeks she is now 8lb. but i am also glad she had it done incase of future speech prolems

chanelle,nz,ashleigh sept04

I got my son Brodie's tongue tie cut today (I found it such a coincidence that today was also the day i found this site and these message boards).

I am just thankful to find that i am not the only one that got told tongue tie causes no problems, because i know now that that is not true.

Brodie was born on the 17th of December and we were discharged from the hospital on the 23rd. Before getting discharged, we were told by the nurse in the nursery at the hospital that the tongue tie can cause possible problems. Unfortunately the midwife that visited me and my GP told me a different story. Tongue tie does not cause any problems feeding or otherwise. My GP said that the skin stretches as the tongue grew.

Brodie, although attaching properly, always seemed to get more air than milk when breastfeeding. Mum and i noticed this.

Lucky for me, before i left the hospital the nurse gave me the paediatricians number and told me to make an appointment for a check up. My husband and i did just that and yesterday (The soonest appointment we could get because of the discharge date and all the holidays in between) we went to see the paediatrician who decided it was best to cut the tongue tie. Brodie was losing weight which was a concern and he thought feeding might not be going too well and that more air than food was getting in.

So today Brodie got his tongue tie cut, and already (even though he is in pain) he is feeding much better without noise and i notice that there is no pain when he attaches as previously experienced. The process was so quick and he didnt even cry afterwards.

The dr said it is better to get it done before the first 6 weeks because until then a baby cannot hold his/her mouth closed when the dr is trying to keep it open.

I therefore urge mothers that have the same problem to either get the problem fixed or at least seek the opinion of someone that does not automatically assume everything is fine. (For those in Perth, Dr Christie in Midland is the dr that fixed brodie). Some babies might be fine, but only a mother will know if something is not quite right because midwives are not with our babies 24hours a day after discharge.

Clare-WA, Brodie 17.12.04, Lauren 13.12.06, Holly

Hi There,

Just wanted to put my point across about tounge tie - it runs in my family I have 1 brother with it and 1 brother who actually got his cut when he was about 20. I first noticed my 14 week old baby boy Jaxon with it not long after I had him - my brother the one who has had it cut was there when I noticed it and as soon I said I think Jaxon is tongue tied he told me to get it sniped asap and not to wait because when he had it done he said it was that painful, that I think all he could eat was icy poles. So we spoke to serveral midwifes and lactation consultants and they tried to tell me that it wasn't that bad - but as a mother of Jaxon I new it was right to the tip of his mouth and when he poked out his tongue I could see the indent of his tongue. So after sonsulting with my husband I wanted it done.

After telling them I wanted it done they told me 2 of the lactation consultants done it but were away for 2 weeks so I asked if my obstertian done it and they said they would see him in the morning - so when he came around he asked me if I wanted it done and I said yes - he had no problems in doing this for me and actually done it in the ward room - I'm a bit funny about my baby hurting but it was nothing he sniped with a pair of (looked like nail) sissors and there was no crying and no blood. What actually made me mad was none of the midwifes told him I pick it up so I was quite annoyed with them - so I let him know it was me!
Bur after seeing that and also hearing my brothers pain getting it done at 20 I didn't wont to wait even for those 2 weeks.

Also on my other brother who hasn't has his done it hasn't caused him any problem with talking or anything but the other day he went to the dentist and he pick up that he was tongue tied and said that he should have it fixed because its starting to ruin his teeth. Anyway hope this has helped some people - but if you do want it sniped get it done asap and the baby would not even remember anything about - Especially if you wait and need it done later in life it hurts much more and is a
differrent healing process for them. My opinion is get to done asap.
Hope this helps others.

Katrina,Vic,

Hi, I have an 11 week old baby. I noticed her tongue-tie when she was new born, and was told by every doctor and paediatrician the same thing, cutting it would not make a difference, and that they probably wouldn't even do it. It was a real push to even get to see a doctor, especially when every day is a nightmare.
I originally thought my baby had colic. Same thing, for the first few days of her life, my nipples were cracked and sore. One of the nurses in maternity (the lactation expert by the way!) said i wasn't doing it right. It was my third baby, and I breastfed both till they were over one! Following weeks proceeded to be little weight gain, taking in lots of air,causing wind, milk dribbling out of her mouth, always hungry, and my milk supply drying up.

I would like to know, what does it take for a medical expert to deem these things serious? I finaly got her tongue snipped at 5 weeks old. major dramas to get it done, and, after all that, yes a simple 'snip' with a pair of scissors, no pain, no bleeding, 2 seconds and it was all done. At the very least, I have eliminated any chances of her having a lisp, needing speech therapy, or being teased for not being able to poke out her tongue, or not being able to lick an icecream. And those possibilities were again not deemed a concern for medical experts!

Now though, I think my babyhasdeveloped a habit of sucking that way. Although she is putting on a little bit more weight, she still dribbles, and has lots of wind. But, she is definitely more settled. We also had to give her a dummy, which she loves!



I cant believe that soo many experts have all said that tongue tie has no effect on breastfeeding, and the 'snip' isn't necessary.

Its VERY necessary. I suspected my 7 week old son of having tongue tie from about 1 weeks old, however living in a small rural town, my GP wouldn't diagnose it. I've since seen a paediatrician who said that he didn't, but had other problems with his mouth.

I suffered severe pain while breastfeeding and researched it in depth. I have been in contact with TT expert Carmen Fernando from Sydney who has written a book on the subject and several lactation consultants who specialise in TT.

It DOES cause problems with breastfeeding, speech and teeth. Any orthadontist will tell you that TT does in fact cause problems with developing teeth in children.

As far as it stretching, this is believed to be a myth. Some mothers notice an improvement in breastfeeding which is though to be caused from it stretching, when in fact the baby just uses different muscels in their mouth to suck. Once a TT has been snipped, babies often need to be retaught how to attach and suck at the breast.

Painful breastfeeding, a baby loosing weight and not being able to attach properly are all severe signs that a 'snip' has to be done immediatly. If it is diagnosed in hospital, it should be done before you go home. Any doctor who can perform a circumcision, should be able to do a TT snip.

It makes me angry that soo many health professionals have chosen to ignore TT and give the wrong information, which in some of your cases, has resorted to the switch from breast to bottle.

If you think your baby has TT, DEMAND to have it snipped. You'll thank yourself in the long run.

Laneisa, QLD, 5 kids + baby Flynn 24/02/05

My 10 week old son has been diagnosed with a tongue tie that can not be snipped, as it is in the meat of his tongue. the Plunket lactation consultant advised me to get it fixed, as his weight began to plateau at 6 weeks and he was crying a lot, and had a lot of wind. When I got a 2nd opinion from my GP, he suggested holding off on getting it done, and expressing whilst topping up with formula.
Its been 2 weeks since I last breastfed and I am expressing 3 times a day. It's horrible, I really miss breastfeeding. I breastfed my first child, now almost 3yo for 6 months, and assumed I would do at least that long this time.
I am ready to fold and go get it done with a laser treatment, which was suggested by Plunket, as I hate expressing, and I want my little boy to be able to breastfeed again! And I hate paying for formula! Adds up so fast!

Louise
Mummy to Lily Mae, 2 years 10 months and Hartley Joshua, 10 weeks.
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