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I would love any advice, suggestions, stories that anyone has to offer please.

I am 25 weeks preg with bub #2. Our son is 18mths old and born by emergency CS after being induced, it was all very messy, long and traumatic for both my hubby and I.
I had a text book pregnancy with our son but just before 41 weeks my BP went through the roof and I was offered a CS or induction. I chose the induction and about 37hrs later (I was closely monitored all this time) I was at 9cm and getting ready to push when I was told that I was going to have a CS NOW. Within 10 min I was in theatre. I had chosen to have an epidural (wonderful thing) about 10hrs earlier and it had worked fine, until now. Before the main incision was made I was given all the pain relief I could have without being given a general or causing any problems with our son, this worked for a few minutes but our son wasn't even half way out and it felt like everything had stopped working, I had never felt such pain in my life. Once our son was born I was given some more pain relief while he was on the resus table. I didn't get to hold my son till he was 3hrs old as I was unable to hold him in theatre and I was moved to recovery while my husband went back to delivery with our son. Recovery was also a nightmare.

I guess my questions are
1) I know this wasn't normal but has this happen to anyone else?
2) If you had drugs fail with your first birth did you have them with your second and did they work this time?
3) Is it worth attempting a VBAC if I am going to end up in the same situation?
4) What was recovery like after a CS with 2 children to look after?
Hi, my first was along the same sort of lines, ending in emergency CS. My OB is currently still for CS this time around, but for me, to have to look after 2 with a scar is not a good thought as I personally found it very difficult afterwards last time. I will be pushing for VBAC as my option when I discuss it with OB next visit. The shorter recovery time is a major plus in my view. Unfortunately can't tell you how I got on yet ... still quite a few weeks to go!
Good luck.
I had to have a ecs with my twins the op went fine but they didnt seal me right and i got 2 germs in the wound from the hospital but thats a long story that was 2 years ago but it feels like it happen yesterday.Well the twins were 15 months old and i gave birth VBAC to the next baby best thing i did ,i would never have another c-section ever again unless the baby was in trouble but pushing the baby out was fine i did tear but i didnt feel it happen .So have a VBAC i am so glad i did .

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I had elective c-sections for both of my children, and from what I've heard if they're elective, you recover a lot better than if they're emergency. Presumably because they're not in a mad rush to get the baby out.

However, something to think about: After having my first c-section for a breech baby, I decided to have a repeat c-section for my second, even though the hospital practically begged me to have a VBAC (I recovered really well from my c-section the first time so thats why I picked to have another). HOWEVER, I'm now pregnant with our 3rd and would love to have a VBA2C and the hospital have just about laughed in my face!! They have told me that I'm not "allowed"!! I could homebirth with an independent midwife...if I had a spare $5k to pay for her!!

I never realised when I was having my second child that that would decide how I could deliver any future babies.

Just something to consider...
Hi smile

I cant help with all your questions, but ive heard of the 'drugs not working' happening to other people (amongst other stuffups during cs), my first was a natural birth and my second was an emergency cs i had an epidural but i had no issues with it, there are alot of people who have VBACs successfully and recommend them. It sounds like you were just unlucky the first time and it wont necessarily happen that way again. In saying that, you wont be able to be induced so if you go over, you'll be booked for a cs. The thing i dread if i was to have another baby is going into labour and ending up having another emergency cs. I was soooo wrecked after 15 hours of labour then having to recover from the op and i really dont ever want to go through that again.

As far as recovery went, DD1 was 3 at the time (17kg) and i didnt pick her up for 9 weeks. I waddled around like an old lady for a couple of weeks & tried to take it slowly (easier said than done)

For me cs was horrible. After a small cuddle, they took her away from me while i layed waiting in the theatre for an hour and a half, and the having to lay on my back for ages after, i had to call the nurse if i wanted to hold my baby and it really wasnt comfortable when i was holding her, I just hated it. With DD1 i was up & standing half an hour later, held her on my chest for 5-10 minutes, and i could get up and get her whenever i felt like it. Sooo much easier.

Good luck!! It's such a hard decision to make but im sure you'll make the right one for you!
Hi smile

I cant help with all your questions, but ive heard of the 'drugs not working' happening to other people (amongst other stuffups during cs), my first was a natural birth and my second was an emergency cs i had an epidural but i had no issues with it, there are alot of people who have VBACs successfully and recommend them. It sounds like you were just unlucky the first time and it wont necessarily happen that way again. In saying that, you wont be able to be induced so if you go over, you'll be booked for a cs. The thing i dread if i was to have another baby is going into labour and ending up having another emergency cs. I was soooo wrecked after 15 hours of labour then having to recover from the op and i really dont ever want to go through that again.

As far as recovery went, DD1 was 3 at the time (17kg) and i didnt pick her up for 9 weeks. I waddled around like an old lady for a couple of weeks & tried to take it slowly (easier said than done)

For me cs was horrible. After a small cuddle, they took her away from me while i layed waiting in the theatre for an hour and a half, and the having to lay on my back for ages after, i had to call the nurse if i wanted to hold my baby and it really wasnt comfortable when i was holding her, I just hated it. With DD1 i was up & standing half an hour later, held her on my chest for 5-10 minutes, and i could get up and get her whenever i felt like it. Sooo much easier.

Good luck!! It's such a hard decision to make but im sure you'll make the right one for you!
With my first c-section it was elective because my son was breech. I had a spinal block and was very lucky that my female anethatist was very experienced. It didn't fail and I was numb, but I did have some pain towards the end, just up under my ribs. This was uncomfortable until the elevated me a little while they stitched me up and it eased. I recovered over at my mum's house so I had constant care. It probably took me a couple of weeks to get back to moving around well.

My second I tried for a VBAC and failed progress past 5cm dilated because of scar tissue from previous c-section. I ended up having an emergency c-section after a very exhausting 24hrs of no sleep. I had been given an epidural at about 11pm. Then it was topped up before I went into theatre at 9am. They were all unprepared because no-one had bothered to tell theatre staff I was coming. So they were rushing around. The anethatist this time like I said topped it up and did the test with the ice to see if I was numb all over. I was absolutely stuffed by then. Got into theatre and they began to cut, I couldn't fully feel it but it was bad. The anethatist seen my face and realised I was feeling it. He yelled "stop, stop, she can feel it". He topped me up and I went numb fully. But because of this I had a bleed and was very weak after. Took me a couple of days to pick up and I also ended up with an infection, so was on horrible anti-biotics too. Again went over to mums to recover. This time took longer and my wound broke down badly, so anti-boitics again. Probably took a little longer to recover because of the wound. Now I do want to say this, my VBAC failed because the person that did my first c-section made an absolute mess of it internally. The Dr that did this c-section had to do a clean up inside and outside too. So even know this was traumatic. I would still try, as the other girls have said the vaginal birth is much easier to recover from. I was so glad I gave it a go. Looking back I would still have done it.

My third birth I decided that I just couldn't go through that again and my dr told me that the likelihood of it happening again would be high. I decided to go elective and get a tubal ligation at the same time (I was 38yo). I didn't even think to ask was I going to have a epidural or a spinal block. When I got into the room where they put the epidural in I was faced with this young Anethatist and friendly male nurse. They were stiring eachother about football. The needles went in fine, but the banter went on, it was distracting. I had a really lovely midwife who stayed with me and held my hand. My husband wasn't at the birth, but my mum was this time. I was relaxed when I was being prepared for the Op to start and I was sure that I was numb. But a when they had me opened up I started to feel things and then they pulled DD2 out of me and it was a horrendous feeling and I must have pulled a real bad face because the Midwife asked me "are you ok, did you feel that", I nodded and the tears started. She let them down the other end know, they showed me DD2, mum got to cut the cord and she brought her over to me. While that was happening they must have been doing my tubes. I don't remember much from there, so I think they must have put me under full anaesthetic. I woke up with those pressure stockings on and a machine that helps the feeling come back to your legs quicker. I didn't have that the other times, it was fantastic. I had more pain and every complication you could imagine after this birth. I had pain were the epidural went in. When my catheter came out of my bladder, my bladder wasn't emptying properly and caused major pain. So I had to have it reinserted for 24hrs and then taken out. Then after first trip to the toilet, the needle part was reinserted to see how much urine was left (all I can say is "OUCH"lol). They didn't check that I had done poo for a couple of days and I ended up with an impacted bowl because of the pain medication, which ment an enema. I was in 7 days. A few days after getting home I found I had an infection in my uterus and had to go on some nasty anti-biotics. Got over that and then my wound kept breaking down in small spots and took ages to heal completely, also ment more anti-biotics. I was out of action for the full six weeks.

Now all of this may scare the living day lights out of you. But remember this is me and it will most likely not happen to you in any way. Like some girls that have horrendous vaginal births, they sill go back again. I went back 3 times. No matter what birth you have, it's the only pain and trauma that gives you the most precious gift of all. I've gone into some detail here and usually I don't. I have 3 beautiful, healthy children, who I love with my heart and sole.

What ever decision you make is the right one and good luck with it:) ((((HUGS))))
Also I'm here if you want to ask any further questions via PM. Good luck:)
Hiya,

Sounds like your first experience was horrible! Definitely something to discuss with your doctor.

We had some issues so I had an induced labour and then an emergency cs due to fetal distress with DS1. I was so shattered afterwards that I'm going straight for an elective this time. If I go for a VABC and go over, I can't be induced again because the contractions are stronger and there's a greater risk of rupture of the uterine scar tissue, so I would end up with another cs anyway. Plus, my lady-bits stay intact! wink

I was talking about it with my OB at my last visit and he said that an elective is a walk in the park compared to an emergency and that my recovery should be better too. I was back to almost normal after 4 weeks last time. When DS2 arrives, DS1 will be 2 years, 8 months, so I'm not really looking forward to not being able to hold him etc. I'm trying to get him used to having cuddles on the couch or in bed and not being picked up all the time, so it's not such a shock when the time comes.

No need to worry about future deliveries because this will be the last one for us. Just trying to decide whether to get my tubes tied while they're in there!

Good luck with your decision! smile
For DS1, l was induced 9 days over, laboured for 12 hours then emergency CS after pushing like crazy and nothing happening. When he was born, my first words were "holy s#@t he's big" at 9lb 15oz. No wonder he couldn't come out!

For DS2, after having an internal on my due date and nothing happening/ripening, l went elective CS 2 days over. Best decision for me as l recovered so much better. He was only 8lb 15oz so l may have been able to have a natural birth, however l think the longer you go past your due date the bigger they get. Also, DS2 and DH went up to the ward whilst l was in recovery so l missed out on his first hour or so.

DD1 was elective CS at 39 weeks. The only way my OB would let me try a natural birth was if l went 6 weeks early and she was available due to too much risk. Again, l recovered quite well. However, this time DD and DH came into recovery with me and with the help of a great midwife l was able to commence BF straight away. We were even wheeled back to the ward with DD still hanging on! This was THE best experience and l would suggest it to anyone if they can.

With DS2 and DD1, l prepared the older kid/s by cuddles only on the couch, teaching them to be independent by using chairs to reach things (good idea at the time - not so much now!) etc.

Good luck with whichever way you go and that you and bubs are happy and healthy at the end.



I know how you feel. I only made my decision a few weeks before my due date. I had an emergency cs with DS1 after 18 hours of labour and i too was 9cm. I decided to have an elective with DS2 and it was such a different experience to the emergency. First of all it won't be as rushed and secondly the baby won't be in the birth canal like the first time. With DS1 there was a lot of yanking and general roughness because his head was suck down there. With DS2 it was so much slower and more gentle. They say recovery is harder after an emergency because your muscles are already sore from contracting and then to top it off they cut you. The drug was also different to with the elective i had a spinal block rather than just an epidural top up and I found it way better. Maybe your drugs wore off because they were in such a rush to get the baby out. If you have an elective they will make sure you can't feel anything. Recovery was so much better the second time too, maybe a week or so of discomfort rather than about 3 weeks of pain the first time.
I think what you need to ask yourself is what birth you want the most. If you want to have a natural birth, I'd suggest you go for the VBAC. I personally always wanted a natural birth and felt very deprived and depressed when my first baby ended up in an emergency CS.
With my second baby, when I was offered the opportunity to have a VBAC, I went for it. They induced me because they only allow you to go a certain amount of days overdue, and labour was really slow to start. I had an epidural for pain relief, but after being in labour for a full day, baby started having problems and I think I passed out twice during labour. I was again rushed into another emergency CS. I dealt with it better the second time around because I'd been told that another emergency CS is possible, and because I had a better idea of what to expect. It was incredibly chaotic at the time, but I've never regretted going for a VBAC. I can now at least say that I gave it my best shot.

Which is why I say, it depends on what kind of birth you really want.

Angel 2002; Keira-Caitlyn 15/01/07; Callum 27/02/09; Seth 29/06/2011

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