Ok... let me just get comfy... you get comfy too... We had a 2000 model Kia Carnival... we bought it in 2001 so it was still under warranty THANK GOD! We only had it for nine months and this is why... in the nine months that we had it we had to have the starter motor replaced TWICE, the indicator lever was faulty, the air conditioning was faulty in the rear and they couldn't fix it, the power steering hose blew and had to be replaced TWICE and the drumroll was having to have the engine replaced... we were without our car for close to three months while the engine was being replaced... there was a backlog because so many kia carnivals were in with the same problem. When i collected my car I asked them what was to say I was not going to have to have the engine replaced again they said that the problem had been rectified and would not occur with the new engine (i will add now that after we got rid of the kia through our car broker we got a phone call a couple of months later asking which service centre had replaced the engine because the engine had busted again and needed to be replaced AGAIN... wasn't our problem then)... so by now you're sure i must have just had a lemon? My grandparents bought exactly the same model and had exactly the same problems but they had an extra problem of the the back seats actually 'sinking' down into the floor! We bought our carnival before anyone knew of the problems and lost a LOT of money reselling it not to mention having a hard time reselling it because the car yards had so many that they couldn't get rid of because no one wanted them. Oh and I forgot to mention it had a problem with the brakes that they couldn't figure out how to fix (I am told this is a problem with the kia rio as well). We now have a Toyota Tarago, lot more expensive but so worth it if you can afford it... as for the magna, you can fit three car seats in the back my best friend and my sister both have a magna and both have three carseats in the back, my friend has a station wagon and when they had their forth child got an extra seat put in the 'boot' for $1500.
In short, you get what you pay for with the Kia Carnival, they are cheap brand new for a very good reason... just think about how you will do without the kia if it breaks down like mine always did... i was forever getting towed and the brake problem was just dangerous!
Jade, QLD, DS Sept 04, #2 due 06/08/07